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but friday they soared on rumors involving google. right now, groupon is giving back a lot of that gain. down almost 8 1/4%. what is going on? >> well, google might be interested in buying groupon. we are seeing gains given back today because a report came out from evercorps, an analyst, saying that he saw no basis to these reports and sees no reason why google would want to buy groupon. so looks like stocks are coming back to earth. there are concerns about its fundamental business model as it tries to expand beyond the deal a day business, that's its core business. >> julia, thank you very much. >>> google stashing billions in off-shore accounts to save a few bucks in taxes and what the deal with jc penney? are they having deals or not? we will discuss it more when we come back. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't n
but friday they soared on rumors involving google. right now, groupon is giving back a lot of that gain. down almost 8 1/4%. what is going on? >> well, google might be interested in buying groupon. we are seeing gains given back today because a report came out from evercorps, an analyst, saying that he saw no basis to these reports and sees no reason why google would want to buy groupon. so looks like stocks are coming back to earth. there are concerns about its fundamental business model...
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there's positive things being said about microsoft and google. when you look at alternative operating systems, whether it's microsoft and their own hardware, this to me is the issue and has always been their issue, they're not going to be able to stave off hardware which becomes indistinguishable. and when you get to places where margins are cut razor thin and will do it better than apple, they can do it cheaper. this is the fundamental issue, it's not a technical issue. >> i would disagree on a microsoft side. microsoft reported their original os 8 numbers. they didn't give any of the surface numbers there. i think you're exactly right in terms of android. especially in an emerging market, that's becoming a bigger deal. keep in mind it's getting to some of these numbers for next year, it doesn't require the big apple growth that they've had. in other words, if they can just gain a fractional share and get to where they want to go. let android have a lot of the emerging markets and apple can beat the street numbers for 2013. >> gene, brian kelly.
there's positive things being said about microsoft and google. when you look at alternative operating systems, whether it's microsoft and their own hardware, this to me is the issue and has always been their issue, they're not going to be able to stave off hardware which becomes indistinguishable. and when you get to places where margins are cut razor thin and will do it better than apple, they can do it cheaper. this is the fundamental issue, it's not a technical issue. >> i would...
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what's the trade on google, pete? >> i like google, but i still think when you look at yahoo!, one of this things we talked about recently is, how yahoo! is actually starting to steal back some of that search. who are they stealing it from? they are taking some of it from google. i like this yahoo! story right now. i think you have more upside. >> amen. >> all right. >> we talk about it for awhile now. >> we have. we have. >> jane? >> all right, finally, this john mcafee story is right out of hollywood. we need to start casting the movie. one likely candidate is vladic sheybal who played dr. boogalow. but i found the late, great roy shader, seen as bob fossey in "all that jazz." unfortunately, they are both dead. so, casting remains open. i see on the set one person with facial hair and i think -- if pete had a really, really, really hard weekend, monday morning, he could play john mcafee. >> i had a rough one this weekend, as a matter of fact. boy, that was tough. >> little extra time with tequila mocking bird. >> meggings were too tight? >> no meggings here. >> have you hear
what's the trade on google, pete? >> i like google, but i still think when you look at yahoo!, one of this things we talked about recently is, how yahoo! is actually starting to steal back some of that search. who are they stealing it from? they are taking some of it from google. i like this yahoo! story right now. i think you have more upside. >> amen. >> all right. >> we talk about it for awhile now. >> we have. we have. >> jane? >> all right,...
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google a clean name. not a lot of flies on it. challenging 50 day moving average of 58, looks like she wants to take it out for good. stock looks terrific. >> delta. >> delta is fantastic. stake in virgin. they are buying a company that had a $130 million loss in the last calendar year. the better trade who got the 360 million, singapore airlines if you're in the emerging marketplace, i think that's the main going. >> best buy getting a drop. >> no nice, just one day away. no reason to walk in the store and buy anything when you do it online probably cheaper than free delivery. continue to stay away. >> a drop for twinkies of it's a sad day for twinkie fans around the world as the final shipment of snacks hit the shelves this morning. 20,000 boxes sent to a chicago-area chain where customers lined up early to get the sugar fix. could be a lining, investors are looking to buy, may not be good-bye to twinkie the kid. final trades are next. americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for
google a clean name. not a lot of flies on it. challenging 50 day moving average of 58, looks like she wants to take it out for good. stock looks terrific. >> delta. >> delta is fantastic. stake in virgin. they are buying a company that had a $130 million loss in the last calendar year. the better trade who got the 360 million, singapore airlines if you're in the emerging marketplace, i think that's the main going. >> best buy getting a drop. >> no nice, just one day...
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google made a bid, $6 billion. this is a business that hasn't evolved the way anyone would expect. would they buy it? who knows. >> can you believe they knocked back google's offer in 2010 and instead decided to go public. >> i forgot you were there. >> by the way, i was just off camera seeing how the sausage is made because this the ultimate sausage manufacturing facility. i heard that. i never said groogle, dieseline but never that. >> i thought who it was an efficient use of google and groupon. >> may be that if rumors are right. if rumors are right, it may be that. we may have that before long. >> by the way, herb, can you stick around for this one as well because i believe you've got a little bet hanging in the balance, brian. jcpenney, your prediction. >> stocks up a bit. before the prediction, i want to say, enof the year isn't here. stock has to go up 15 points. if it does, still beat brian on the bet. >> you think jcpenney is going to double in two weeks. >> i said all it has to do is rise another 15 points. >> jan turned positive, talked to a focus group who said they lov
google made a bid, $6 billion. this is a business that hasn't evolved the way anyone would expect. would they buy it? who knows. >> can you believe they knocked back google's offer in 2010 and instead decided to go public. >> i forgot you were there. >> by the way, i was just off camera seeing how the sausage is made because this the ultimate sausage manufacturing facility. i heard that. i never said groogle, dieseline but never that. >> i thought who it was an efficient...
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google unveiling its new map for the iphone after given the boot by apple. who will win this battle? and shares of best buy, moving up by, look at that, nearly 15% today. reports its founder could make a take over offer for that retailer, but is that the best move? my partner, sue herera at the new york stock exchange for us. sue? >> ty, it is a little bit after down side bias today. investors are losing enthusiasm over the fed's move. and more specifically, the employment rate. right now, the dow is down 57 points on the trading session. most of that drop cake after mr. boehner made comments about the continues impasse in trying to resolve the fiscal cliff. s&p down 23, down three quarters percent. and the nasdaq is down about half a percent. bob joins me on the floor of the nyse. the market is very undecided about what is happening in washington. what the feds know that perhaps we don't know. >> we are getting smacked around by these two separate events. the fiscal cliff as well as aftermath of what went on with the fed. i think the fed is still very impor
google unveiling its new map for the iphone after given the boot by apple. who will win this battle? and shares of best buy, moving up by, look at that, nearly 15% today. reports its founder could make a take over offer for that retailer, but is that the best move? my partner, sue herera at the new york stock exchange for us. sue? >> ty, it is a little bit after down side bias today. investors are losing enthusiasm over the fed's move. and more specifically, the employment rate. right...
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google stashed $10 million in bermuda, hp has almost all of its cash offshore and apple said to shareholders, two-thirds of its $121 billion of cash is held outside the united states. now why is that? is it just because they hate america? >> two things to understand. number one, everything they do is completely legal. it's foreign source income that is being taxed in the countries where it's being earned. but, number, two, the u.s. has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world. these companies if they bring that money back to the united states will be double taxed on top of what they paid oversea, yes, with some credit so maybe it doesn't get too much above 35% but we are shooting ourselves in the foot with very bad corporate tax policy. >> will president obama clahang that with this talk of corporate tax reform? >> i don't want to burst your bubble. i'm not sure the administration is serious about this. we've seen there idea of corporate tax reform and it makes our world wide tax system more expansive so companies don't even have the ability to delay the second layer of tax. i t
google stashed $10 million in bermuda, hp has almost all of its cash offshore and apple said to shareholders, two-thirds of its $121 billion of cash is held outside the united states. now why is that? is it just because they hate america? >> two things to understand. number one, everything they do is completely legal. it's foreign source income that is being taxed in the countries where it's being earned. but, number, two, the u.s. has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed...
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if you google bermuda tax shelter, you probably get google as the top result. >> indeed. well, news today that google is using bermuda to its tax advantage. and in a very big way. the internet giant is steering $10 billion in overseas profits in the islands nation. therefore avoiding about $2 billion in taxes worldwide. guess what, it is all legal. it benefits the company's bottom line. but opens the company up for criticism. let's bring in ben schacter. saying it's the fiduciary duty that google has to their shareholders. while david callahan says such strategies could hurt the brand. great to have you with us. ben, let me get to you today. we'll get into the ethics in a second. but you say it is good for shareholders. >> i think it's what they have to do. it's their fiduciary duty to protect shareholders and pay as low a tax rate as they legally can. and in this case, that is what they're doing. >> but ethically it feels a little dirty, doesn't it? if all these american companies are hiding their revenues elsewhere. >> i think this is what they have to do. they have leg
if you google bermuda tax shelter, you probably get google as the top result. >> indeed. well, news today that google is using bermuda to its tax advantage. and in a very big way. the internet giant is steering $10 billion in overseas profits in the islands nation. therefore avoiding about $2 billion in taxes worldwide. guess what, it is all legal. it benefits the company's bottom line. but opens the company up for criticism. let's bring in ben schacter. saying it's the fiduciary duty...
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it is not going to drive google's earnings, if you -- display ad does drive google's earnings but nothing to do with display ads, sit there and think maybe am, people will buy it, maybe not, but the idea that google is up big and apple is down big just shows you how fanciful this market can be versus the reality. makes no sense. >> google could drive a lot bigger margin if they wanted to, fascinating company, i agree. >> all the thing these give away for free they could possibly monetize u >> kansas city, delivering one gigabyte for $30 a month. so interesting to follow this company, generating enormous amounts of cash flow. >> trade off of that. invest in it, they are investing so much in the future. the idea of a superior map product driving google over 700, starting to climb back where it was after that horribly disappointing quarter? i got facebook at 20. i get that. facebook said we got a way to monetize, but the idea, wow, you know what, those maps, which we know are superior, we should buy google off it? >> maybe just the people are taking money out of apple and putting it elsewher
it is not going to drive google's earnings, if you -- display ad does drive google's earnings but nothing to do with display ads, sit there and think maybe am, people will buy it, maybe not, but the idea that google is up big and apple is down big just shows you how fanciful this market can be versus the reality. makes no sense. >> google could drive a lot bigger margin if they wanted to, fascinating company, i agree. >> all the thing these give away for free they could possibly...
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you would prefer google. make the case, sir. >> well, i think that apple is a company that goes through plod cycles and so, therefore, you've got lumpiness and risk there with each product cycle. as you have other hardware manufacturers like google and like amazon come in and they have other businesses that they could use to fund their kind of break-even foray into hardware, it is going to become more about the software. clearly apple has a formidable platform in itunes but we think longer term google is the winner in terms of its android os, powering cream which we think is the best browser, gmail, the core search product. youtube. this is google's goal, to tie a lasso around its ecosystem of advertising supported products. those revenues for me as an analyst are more predictable and also higher margin. i'd prefer to buy google ten times out of ten. >> microsoft's sitting in the corner right now feeling really lonely and left out. why not microsoft? >> i think longer term, microsoft, windows and win 8 have r
you would prefer google. make the case, sir. >> well, i think that apple is a company that goes through plod cycles and so, therefore, you've got lumpiness and risk there with each product cycle. as you have other hardware manufacturers like google and like amazon come in and they have other businesses that they could use to fund their kind of break-even foray into hardware, it is going to become more about the software. clearly apple has a formidable platform in itunes but we think...
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apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the mini isn't selling, there's no special dividend, we've got a stock chart that is the -- >> sell, sell, sell, sell! >> excuse me for a moment while i get nauseated. apple went down today because it's a big dollar amount stock and makes a ton of economic sense to ring the register before year-end. why do i always say about apple? own it. shocker. how about citigroup? this company's crushed shareholders for many, many years, but this new management team, you've got to hand it to them for taking tough medicine right before the holidays, firing 11,000 people, shutting down underperforming operations around the globe. no, i don't want to work there, and i feel terrible at the layoffs. i've got a ton of friends over citi, but i would be happy if i was a shareholder. something we're asking of our politicians, they can't do that. but citigroup's management was willing to take the hard medicine for the shareholders. we hear endless negativity about china and europe, but the chinese market
apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the mini isn't selling, there's no special dividend, we've got a stock chart that is the -- >> sell, sell, sell, sell! >> excuse me for a moment while i get nauseated. apple went down today because it's a big dollar amount stock and makes a ton of economic sense to ring the register before year-end. why do i always say about apple? own it. shocker. how about citigroup? this...
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that isn't working out so well for them but google is also trying to do this. this isn't just a apple thing. a number of companies trying to do some manufacturing here. apple last quarter made about 50 million things. they are a huge manufacturer. just under 1 million of those were desktop macs. so we're talking about a small sliver of what apple actually makes. >> jon, i wonder, how you would characterize the change in culture from steve jobs to tim cook. i might characterize it this way. mr. cook feels like velvet glove, iron fist. mr. jobs was iron glove, iron fist. >> well, i'm not sure which glove hits harder. you take a look at some of the executive shuffling that we've seen under the tim cook regime. that's significant. we didn't see steve jobs do things quite in that way so he's not afraid to make changes. he's also done stuff with a dividend that we've seen. he's done things with apple, also being more open with wall street. so a few things that he's done also in charitable giving that are different. >> i would chime in and add, this is definitely a mo
that isn't working out so well for them but google is also trying to do this. this isn't just a apple thing. a number of companies trying to do some manufacturing here. apple last quarter made about 50 million things. they are a huge manufacturer. just under 1 million of those were desktop macs. so we're talking about a small sliver of what apple actually makes. >> jon, i wonder, how you would characterize the change in culture from steve jobs to tim cook. i might characterize it this...
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neither google nor apple responded to requests for comment. >> all right. let's get out to kayla tausche again. we're hearing the treasury is going to sell the remaining $240 million worth of aig shares? >> that's correct. we're seeing those headlines just hit the wire now. it's 234 million shares. that's roughly $8 billion. that's the last of the treasury's investment in aig. they will launch a fully public offering. roughly 16% of aig shares. this is a mayjor coupe for the government. still at 33 bucks even though it's down after-hours up from the re-ipo after the financial crisis. >> and it's something that will make the ceo very, very happy. the last couple times he's been on this program, he has been campaigning publicly for the government to do just that. he wants them off his balance sheet and off his back. >> it was an unpopular risk to begin with. so brings this all into the era. >> as kayla pointed out, it turned out to be profitable for the country. >> absolutely. >>> in the meantime, death tax would jump. we talk about why it might cost someone'
neither google nor apple responded to requests for comment. >> all right. let's get out to kayla tausche again. we're hearing the treasury is going to sell the remaining $240 million worth of aig shares? >> that's correct. we're seeing those headlines just hit the wire now. it's 234 million shares. that's roughly $8 billion. that's the last of the treasury's investment in aig. they will launch a fully public offering. roughly 16% of aig shares. this is a mayjor coupe for the...
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apple up 31%, google up 9% but that doesn't matter because more recently apple falling 20% and google 6%. which is the better bet longer term? they are in apple. that's what i believe longer term. the right investment is. it does not say that i do not believe google is not a good investment because i do believe that it is. >> harry reid is speaking right now. let's go down to capitol hill. >> -- calling on speaker boehner for tax cuts to the middle class. today senator cornyn, the second ranking democrat in the next congress -- i'm sorry, don't i wish -- the second ranking republican in the next congress -- joined the chorus in calling on speaker boehner to do the reasonable thing. here's what he said. i believe we're going to pass it sooner rather than later. we really don't have much leverage there because those rates -- >> i'll take it back from harry reid while we try and figure out this audio issue that we're clearly having from the majority leader and his comments down in the nation's capitol as the democratic leadership gets its turn, if you will, at the microphone for an updat
apple up 31%, google up 9% but that doesn't matter because more recently apple falling 20% and google 6%. which is the better bet longer term? they are in apple. that's what i believe longer term. the right investment is. it does not say that i do not believe google is not a good investment because i do believe that it is. >> harry reid is speaking right now. let's go down to capitol hill. >> -- calling on speaker boehner for tax cuts to the middle class. today senator cornyn, the...
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google thing still going around the market. we read and respected in the tech world, give me a break. it'll never happen. but the stock did move friday on the news. a big move. now what is this stock up to. >> we don't talk about them much. the 12 month clinical trial of an experimental leukemia drug. >> nexen, again, a company we don't talk much about, but what is up to? >> we don't talk about it much because it is canadian. don't know if you hate it canada like you do american. but a big energy company. here is the deal. people got outraged, just like we are facing here. oh, can't let chinese buy our energy property, terrorism, blah blah blah. guess what? they are allowing the deal to go through. other companies are falling because they may impart new rules. saying we don't know if theant prices can by our energy companies. does that sound familiar in any way? >> this is the is the version of -- >> i don't hate canadians. why do you? >> i don't hate canadians. i hate everybody. i'm kidding. >> now getting cheaper by the minut
google thing still going around the market. we read and respected in the tech world, give me a break. it'll never happen. but the stock did move friday on the news. a big move. now what is this stock up to. >> we don't talk about them much. the 12 month clinical trial of an experimental leukemia drug. >> nexen, again, a company we don't talk much about, but what is up to? >> we don't talk about it much because it is canadian. don't know if you hate it canada like you do...
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if you can find companies like google and apple, you would stay with apple? >> absolutely. one of the great bragrands domit here, apple will do well. >> you are saying, keep your eye on the longer term. don't look at every breath for this clip business. try to have a long der term. >> if you are trying to dance aren't what a politician is saying over here. in guesting for the long-term you have to look three or five years out. >> all right folks the real divide in america is not just the rich and the poor it is between private and public workers. don't think the folks haven't figured that out. we have an eye opening poll for you on that subject. stay with us please. work hard . since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male anno
if you can find companies like google and apple, you would stay with apple? >> absolutely. one of the great bragrands domit here, apple will do well. >> you are saying, keep your eye on the longer term. don't look at every breath for this clip business. try to have a long der term. >> if you are trying to dance aren't what a politician is saying over here. in guesting for the long-term you have to look three or five years out. >> all right folks the real divide in...
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. >>> google plans to start charging small businesses for its free services like e-mail and google docs. will consumers be next it with those fees? >>> from "50 shades of grey" to 5,000 shades of green, publisher random house giving employees a lot to cheer about this holiday season. we'll explain when "power lunch" continues in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] 'tis the season to discover the kid in all of us. enjoy free shipping and great values on your holiday shopping from l.l. bean. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite r
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google fiber is going to be a huge event. they're testing it in kansas city. they're bundling packages with cablevision -- i'm sorry. they are bundling packages with cable tv and internet service. much quicker than the cable internet service. >> is it going to be huge or huge? >> both. >> okay. >> depends on where you're from. >> boys. all right. pop for jcpenney. a huge move, anthony. >> listen, this is the classic short squeeze. one of the worst performing stocks year to date. i expect this thing to get a little higher. >> drop for copper, down 1%. tim? >> not a huge move. >> huge or huge? >> semi-huge move. people are blaming the fiscal cliff. i would just call it lme inventorie inventories, which are very high and major resistant to copper at a time when we don't know if there's real sustained demand. >> pop for sam, boston beer, up 15%. mike? >> this is an example of a good company, but not a good stock. yesterday, after the close, they raised their full year eps forecast to between $4.30 and $4.60 a share. here's the thing, though. 10% top line growth an
google fiber is going to be a huge event. they're testing it in kansas city. they're bundling packages with cablevision -- i'm sorry. they are bundling packages with cable tv and internet service. much quicker than the cable internet service. >> is it going to be huge or huge? >> both. >> okay. >> depends on where you're from. >> boys. all right. pop for jcpenney. a huge move, anthony. >> listen, this is the classic short squeeze. one of the worst performing...
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the google map is now available as a download from appel itunes. you can get it for free. >> and the big question was, a, was google going to make it and, b, was apple going to accept it? we were at the conference yesterday. there was a lot of discussion about that issue. >> it might be easier to list who wasn't at your conference. >> you know, you were invited to the conference. >> i was. i had something else to do. >> what did you have to do yesterday? >> wash my hair. no, i had a -- no, i would have come. i did. i had a lunch. >> it was in the city. >> no. >> you were so close, you came across the bridge? >> i also had to meet with my style team. >> okay. >> my style is lacking, apparently. >> another historic night at madison square garden and the 12-12-12 concert brought relief for hurricane sandy. the sold-out show lasted nearly six hours and was said to have reached an audience of two billion, with a b, people around the world. it was broadcast over tv, radio, internet, quite a night if you were lucky enough to have a ticket. i was actually
the google map is now available as a download from appel itunes. you can get it for free. >> and the big question was, a, was google going to make it and, b, was apple going to accept it? we were at the conference yesterday. there was a lot of discussion about that issue. >> it might be easier to list who wasn't at your conference. >> you know, you were invited to the conference. >> i was. i had something else to do. >> what did you have to do yesterday? >>...
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the difference between apple and google is they're not public about it. we don't know what they're working on other than these p patent filings. trust me, they're working on big, new, exciting things. even wearable computers. >> let's hope. we haven't seen them though. maybe. >> it just occurred to me, we talk about tim cook versus steve jobs and is the company different and how is it different and all that. is it possible, max, that shareholders think they are still investing in steve jobs' apple rather than tim cook's apple? >> absolutely. >> is that why we've seen this 23% decline in the stock recently as some of that is starting to dawn on them? >> absolutely. i'll do you one better. it's a great question. i think analysts still think they're forecasting and following steve jobs' growth. the bad news is that it's the wrong model. that era has ended. there's lots of exciting things to do. the story is not over. the future is potentially very bright. folks need to move away from maintaining the margin and benchmark everything against steve jobs. the mar
the difference between apple and google is they're not public about it. we don't know what they're working on other than these p patent filings. trust me, they're working on big, new, exciting things. even wearable computers. >> let's hope. we haven't seen them though. maybe. >> it just occurred to me, we talk about tim cook versus steve jobs and is the company different and how is it different and all that. is it possible, max, that shareholders think they are still investing in...
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writes make a tv in which the sound does not go up for commercials and i'll be the first is a-to-say google will copy apple if they are successful, samit bhatt. now we have scott wapner and "fast money." >>> welcome to "the halftime show." four hours to go until the close. green arrows across the board. 13,041 the dow jones industrial average, all of the major averages in the green. here's what we're following on "halftime" target practice with its prediction for 2012 now within reach, jpmorgan's tom lee on the market's next move. net gain, netflix shares up again as the company rides the halo of its disney deal. where is the next stop? one stock, two opinions in a halftime debate. first our top story the sudden sell-off in shares of apple, after posting its worst trading day in four years, the stock is rebounding but has still lost more than $35 billion in market cap over the past few days. jon fortt is in silicon valley with the latest, the worst performance of three days since 2008. what is the buzz in the valley? >> we've heard multiple theories why the stock has been falling, people se
writes make a tv in which the sound does not go up for commercials and i'll be the first is a-to-say google will copy apple if they are successful, samit bhatt. now we have scott wapner and "fast money." >>> welcome to "the halftime show." four hours to go until the close. green arrows across the board. 13,041 the dow jones industrial average, all of the major averages in the green. here's what we're following on "halftime" target practice with its...
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google stock in frankfurt down 0.4%. and after several days of public pronouncements and posturing, budget talks have privately resume between the staff of john boehner and the white house. this breaks a near week long silence between the two sides as the deadline to avoid the fiscal cliff looms. president obama and boehner spoke by phone on wednesday and promised to renew the negotiations. hurricane sandy expected to put a big dent in the u.s. jobs report out at 8:30 eastern. nonfarm payrolls are forecast to have risen just 80,000, versus 171,000 in october. it would be the smallest job growth in five months. sandy which truck strustruck at of october battered the east coast, but economists expect a snap back in december. unemployment forecast to hold steady at 7.9%. and besides the jobs report, other items on the agenda in the united states, two other pieces of economic data, the first is the read on december consumer sentiment, due out at 9:55 eastern. forecasts call for sentiment to slip to 82 this month down nearly
google stock in frankfurt down 0.4%. and after several days of public pronouncements and posturing, budget talks have privately resume between the staff of john boehner and the white house. this breaks a near week long silence between the two sides as the deadline to avoid the fiscal cliff looms. president obama and boehner spoke by phone on wednesday and promised to renew the negotiations. hurricane sandy expected to put a big dent in the u.s. jobs report out at 8:30 eastern. nonfarm payrolls...
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this is after members of parliament accused the likes of starbucks, google and amazon of immorally dodging taxes in the uk. although they've done absolutely nothing illegal. steve is braving the inclement weather in the uk with more on this story. how much of a mention and a focus is this going to get with everything else, steve? >> well, isn't it wonderful, the politicians when they're running for their own lives look for another scapegoat, and who better than those u.s. corporations who aren't paying enough uk tax. but as you quite rightly said, they're doing absolutely nothing illegal and doing everything that they should do in terms of creating shareholder value. they're doing what they should do, ie looking for ways to minimize their tax burden, increase their profit and potentially increase the special dividends no those u.s. investors will be getting ahead of the fiscal cliff. but let's get another view of this. gary richards is a senior corporate tax partner. that's the point. these american companies who are evading taxes who the politicians want to come down on, they're doing not
this is after members of parliament accused the likes of starbucks, google and amazon of immorally dodging taxes in the uk. although they've done absolutely nothing illegal. steve is braving the inclement weather in the uk with more on this story. how much of a mention and a focus is this going to get with everything else, steve? >> well, isn't it wonderful, the politicians when they're running for their own lives look for another scapegoat, and who better than those u.s. corporations who...
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but google is like that. and i got you. >> and you got me and i fell for it and i should have known. >> oh, man. coming up, a live report from rome. >> i should know better. how long have i been sitting next to you? >> why europe is paying close attention to who will follow mario monti as italy's prime minister. >>> but here at home, a very big difference between president obama's first inauguration and the one being planned for next month. details when we run. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. if you're a man w
but google is like that. and i got you. >> and you got me and i fell for it and i should have known. >> oh, man. coming up, a live report from rome. >> i should know better. how long have i been sitting next to you? >> why europe is paying close attention to who will follow mario monti as italy's prime minister. >>> but here at home, a very big difference between president obama's first inauguration and the one being planned for next month. details when we run....
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remember, i hope you'll follow me on twitter and google plus. stay with cnbc, because "fast money" begins right now. see you back in new york tomorrow. >> and this is mission krill call, rise above washington, d.c. we're going to get to "fast money" in just a moment. but we've got to talk about what is going on here. you just heard maria's observation. she is not confident that a deal will get done. sadly, i feel the same way. especially after speaking with numerous lawmakers today. everybody seems very firmly entrenched, although eamon with the news just a moment ago that john boehner has indeed sent the president a counter offer, though republicans, to a man, complained today that they do not know what cuts the democrats would like to make. senator harry reid coming out earlier today, saying, we're not going to offer up any cuts. we want the gop to put their cuts on the table. it is clear it is a game of finger pointing, which party is going to be made to look like the bad guys, because somebody's going to have to tell somebody no. that is cer
remember, i hope you'll follow me on twitter and google plus. stay with cnbc, because "fast money" begins right now. see you back in new york tomorrow. >> and this is mission krill call, rise above washington, d.c. we're going to get to "fast money" in just a moment. but we've got to talk about what is going on here. you just heard maria's observation. she is not confident that a deal will get done. sadly, i feel the same way. especially after speaking with numerous...
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and i do believe they're in acquisition target potentially, whether it be for microsoft or comcast or google or potentially an app. >> weiss, what about the risk factors? >> they're meaningless in terms of the fundamentals of the company. all it's going to be is a fine. it's not like there's fraud or anything like that. there's no restatement of earnings or neanything else comg in. balance sheet. just ignore that nuisance. it gets your names in the headlines a little bit more. in terms of the company and the fundamentals, my concern is they're overpaying for content. they're going to have to raise capital next year and i don't think somebody can come in and buy them. >> we'll move on and talk about the market. ross kosterich joins us live from san francisco. ros russ, nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> if there's coal in apple's market can santa claus have a rally? >> the stock can move higher without apple but to state the obvious, it's a big chunk. it's certainly going to help if apple participates but i think the reality is apple along with the rest of the stock market is still
and i do believe they're in acquisition target potentially, whether it be for microsoft or comcast or google or potentially an app. >> weiss, what about the risk factors? >> they're meaningless in terms of the fundamentals of the company. all it's going to be is a fine. it's not like there's fraud or anything like that. there's no restatement of earnings or neanything else comg in. balance sheet. just ignore that nuisance. it gets your names in the headlines a little bit more. in...
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now, google has released a new downloadable maps app for the iphone. this comes after am removed google maps in favor of its own software. that app led to an apology from app apple's ceo tim cook. the new map allows for turn by turn basis. it is available for download now from the itunes apps store. both apple and google shares are down about .5% and that is in line with what we're seeing in the broader index. so now, american airlines critters reportedly would prefer an all-stock merger with rival us airways. reports say a sdis decision by amr on whether to pursue a deal or remain a stand alone company is expected next month. america filed for bankruptcy last year. amr critters would own 730% of the airlines with a value of potentially $8.5 billion. >>> and jeffrey the ga rav won't be getting out much over the next few weeks. for the third straight year, toys r us says it will keep stores over 24/7 to 10:00 p.m. on christmas eve. the retailer's flagship store has been opened around the clock since december 2nd. toys r us joins macy's on the late shift
now, google has released a new downloadable maps app for the iphone. this comes after am removed google maps in favor of its own software. that app led to an apology from app apple's ceo tim cook. the new map allows for turn by turn basis. it is available for download now from the itunes apps store. both apple and google shares are down about .5% and that is in line with what we're seeing in the broader index. so now, american airlines critters reportedly would prefer an all-stock merger with...
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we will ask the man who runs google heim's millions. our chart will lay out the real case. why are so many of us willing to pay what some call the apple tax? is d.c.'s problem revenue or spending? or stat of the day will help you make up your mind, mandy, if it doesn't blow your mind, first. >> i'm ready to have my mind blown. in the meantime, the mark set looking shaky at this point and s&p may miss out on postingity first seven-day winning streak in six years. reak, by the way, folks wab was back in october 2006. let's get out to bob. let's get out to rick. first, i want to ask you, bob, how much of this is due to the fed as opposed to the fiscal cliff. >> i'm not discounting the fiscal cliff but i think a lot of this is sell on the news related to the federal reserve. we have seen this news before. remember, take a look at the s&p 500. i don't think it is a coincidence we hit the highs of year september 14th. that's the day after the fed meeting when they announced quantitative ease meetings. they bought into the fed meeting then started selling immediately after. we saw
we will ask the man who runs google heim's millions. our chart will lay out the real case. why are so many of us willing to pay what some call the apple tax? is d.c.'s problem revenue or spending? or stat of the day will help you make up your mind, mandy, if it doesn't blow your mind, first. >> i'm ready to have my mind blown. in the meantime, the mark set looking shaky at this point and s&p may miss out on postingity first seven-day winning streak in six years. reak, by the way,...
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apple sitting on $121 billion, cisco and google around $45 billion. will any of these join the race? >> i think the key question here is how much of the stock is held by insiders of some sort who can benefit by paying out a special dividend. that's been a key factor in terms of these screens floating around, screens of potential dividend payers. >> we know buffett's not going to do it. >> yeah. >> because of the buffett rule. so he can't do it. but i do think gates could do it. gates and balmer are two of the largest shareholders at microsoft. rather than the $40 billion, another $20 billion offshore. i like that one. >> what you want to do, once it's announced, you want to buy the stock, write it up and sell the day before and then you don't have to deal with that collapse the next day. >> the impact on the market will be interesting this december. thanks so much. stay tuned. >>> the holidays may be happy for you and for me, but this is crunch time. so will some retailers triumph and others feel the sting of defeat? i'm here to help you sort out the
apple sitting on $121 billion, cisco and google around $45 billion. will any of these join the race? >> i think the key question here is how much of the stock is held by insiders of some sort who can benefit by paying out a special dividend. that's been a key factor in terms of these screens floating around, screens of potential dividend payers. >> we know buffett's not going to do it. >> yeah. >> because of the buffett rule. so he can't do it. but i do think gates could...
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and decided online education is next and google didn't want to do it and we're backing him and it will be fun to see. >> marc andreessen, thank you for being here. send it back to the studios. >> this is embarrassing. she is like throwing herself at the camera. i've never seen this side of you. >> there's so few voices willing to say what he said out loud. >> andrew, we asked him to guest host. he can talk the disrupter stuff and politics. >> he's the ultimate disrupter. >> another guy came out. will you do that? >> marc? >> we will have him come out. he's on his way back. >> becky will be back by then so you don't have to worry about me. >> right. exactly. got it. >> she'll leave the ring. >> need some muscle to keep you away. >>> the weird thing with twitter you have only tweeted in your career 709 times. >> you're tracking me? >> no, i just looked. i don't know why they picked me. they must like the silent. i guess less is more because we're not big tweeters, the two of us. >> hold on. while we are on this topic and before he goes, marc andreessen not only has an investment but has
and decided online education is next and google didn't want to do it and we're backing him and it will be fun to see. >> marc andreessen, thank you for being here. send it back to the studios. >> this is embarrassing. she is like throwing herself at the camera. i've never seen this side of you. >> there's so few voices willing to say what he said out loud. >> andrew, we asked him to guest host. he can talk the disrupter stuff and politics. >> he's the ultimate...
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this has been disrupted by new players like square and paypal and google. the stock has been hit, but our fund manager we talked to think it's been unfairly hit. any time an industry is being disrupted, that's a good opportunity. >> u.s. bancorp? >> this is an old fashioned bank. focuses on deposits and loans and wealth management. none of the other stuff that can get you into trouble. this is one our clients really liked. >> this year dividend plays have been huge. everyone is looking for income. they look to these companies that have a good yield. the two that came through here were ford and, as it happens, our majority owner comcast. >> yes. so ford, you know, the auto recovery story is pretty significant. it's still happening. cars on the road are older. the replacement rate is going to go up. with ford, it has a rock-solid balance sheet. its dividend yield, we think, could go up. comcast is interesting. not because it's the boss' of "closing bell," it has a new revenue stream in nbc universal, which is up 32% in the third quarter because of the olympic
this has been disrupted by new players like square and paypal and google. the stock has been hit, but our fund manager we talked to think it's been unfairly hit. any time an industry is being disrupted, that's a good opportunity. >> u.s. bancorp? >> this is an old fashioned bank. focuses on deposits and loans and wealth management. none of the other stuff that can get you into trouble. this is one our clients really liked. >> this year dividend plays have been huge. everyone...
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respond to any of the juicy questions like whether the company needs new leadership or friday's report google is interested in groupon which sent it skyrocketing. given up gains, about 15% since friday. mason stressing groupon strength in mobile, a third his transactions on mobile devices saying mobile customers spend more and are more loyal. sue, over to you. >> thank you. time for the "power lunch" rundown. welcome, gentlemen. first up treasury selling remaining aig shares and nets $22.7 billion in the process. a nice tidy sumbu it took a while and it was a lot of hard work to get that. >> yes, the question for historians to debate is whether or not the success of this aig bail ott will encourage future generations of lawmakers to say, hey, you know what, last trim we made $22 billion. let's do it again. it seems to work. that's the question from now until the next major financial collapse. i hope that's a long time from now but it's something to think about. >> i want to put out $22 billion sounds like a lot of money but only about a 3% return per year. the treasury really isn't as great a
respond to any of the juicy questions like whether the company needs new leadership or friday's report google is interested in groupon which sent it skyrocketing. given up gains, about 15% since friday. mason stressing groupon strength in mobile, a third his transactions on mobile devices saying mobile customers spend more and are more loyal. sue, over to you. >> thank you. time for the "power lunch" rundown. welcome, gentlemen. first up treasury selling remaining aig shares and...
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performer this month and even though it may not have as much market share momentum as the big rivals google and ale, take a look at the performance, at least since the start of december. back to you. >> has rimm moved too far too fast or is this the best to come for this shot? let's start talking numbers. chief market technician on oppenheimer and on the fundamentals herb greenberg, our senior stocks commentator. is there more to this than hopes for the blackberry 10? the stock is on fire lately. >> maria, it's buying on the rumor. ultimately selling on the news. so classic wall street with a heavily shorted stock, a stock believe don't believe, and people have been dying the stocks just like rim based on, you know, an announcement that they will roll the thing out. remember, there's a lot that has to be done once this thing comes out and prove it to the marketplace, but in my eyes it's classic. >> classic. carter, what's the chart say? >> sure. just as herb said, it's been moving aggressively, and it really isn't about the fundamentals. there are none. the fundamentals are terrible, but wh
performer this month and even though it may not have as much market share momentum as the big rivals google and ale, take a look at the performance, at least since the start of december. back to you. >> has rimm moved too far too fast or is this the best to come for this shot? let's start talking numbers. chief market technician on oppenheimer and on the fundamentals herb greenberg, our senior stocks commentator. is there more to this than hopes for the blackberry 10? the stock is on fire...
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google at 64%. that's important to note. the reason why these companies have so much cash overseas is that they've been global growth stories. when microsoft sells product overseas the proceeds go into accounts over there. don't come to the u.s. unless microsoft needs to buy something here. you can see it plays out in a company like apple, too, where international launches and international retail expansion have become far more important than the u.s. where growth is concerned. just five years ago apple had 58% of its cash in the u.s. this is actually a big issue for a company like cisco where john chambers has been very straightforward about saying if the federal government lets us repay treeuate this cash, bring it to the u.s. without a big penalty, we'll use it to hire and grow in this country. if not we'll hire less and, by the way, keep making bigger overseas acquisitions, too. all of this gets a bit dicier when you consider a lot of u.s. companies have gotten pretty good at avoiding tax on international sales by using
google at 64%. that's important to note. the reason why these companies have so much cash overseas is that they've been global growth stories. when microsoft sells product overseas the proceeds go into accounts over there. don't come to the u.s. unless microsoft needs to buy something here. you can see it plays out in a company like apple, too, where international launches and international retail expansion have become far more important than the u.s. where growth is concerned. just five years...
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by analysts a forecast by an influential research firm suggesting the iphone iphone is giving up to google's headlines. apple accounts for the entirely of the mass dnasdaq's fall of 1. apple is enjoying its best day since early last week. didn't close on its highs but equities up 8% points or so. futures back in positive territory, up 15 and down and up five or so. everybody's watching what's going on in d.c. overnight in asia it was mixed but not big moves sni where, japan had a good day and in europe we have green roar rows yesterday morning which pour tended good things for us here, germany doing the best. >> as expect the bank of england and european central banks left their ratings unchanged. mario draghi will hold his post meeting news conference. steve liesman has more exclusive raults from our all-america economic survey. >> what do people think about the fiscal cliff. consumer confidence has remind high. business confidence is down so the first thing we want to know, that's not the right chart, we want to do on whether or not people heard about the fiscal cliff. have you heard of it
by analysts a forecast by an influential research firm suggesting the iphone iphone is giving up to google's headlines. apple accounts for the entirely of the mass dnasdaq's fall of 1. apple is enjoying its best day since early last week. didn't close on its highs but equities up 8% points or so. futures back in positive territory, up 15 and down and up five or so. everybody's watching what's going on in d.c. overnight in asia it was mixed but not big moves sni where, japan had a good day and...